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		<title>By: CodeBastardRedgrave.Com &#187; Flickr Saga continues! Flickr accused of censorship, yet again.</title>
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		<dc:creator>CodeBastardRedgrave.Com &#187; Flickr Saga continues! Flickr accused of censorship, yet again.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 15:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I was not really surprised to see a wave of protestation going on Flickr, since all the problems I had with them censoring my work in the past, I hoped this matter was resolved with their new rating system. Seems this is another issue this time that all german users seems to have. Extracted from Marquez Tone&#8217;s Flickr Stream: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I was not really surprised to see a wave of protestation going on Flickr, since all the problems I had with them censoring my work in the past, I hoped this matter was resolved with their new rating system. Seems this is another issue this time that all german users seems to have. Extracted from Marquez Tone&#8217;s Flickr Stream: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: cbredgrave</title>
		<link>http://codebastardredgrave.com/the-flickr-saga/#comment-11</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 22:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh Dakota and thanks for the Mature SL groups pointer. I'm so busy nowdays that I did'nt check much for other SL related groups, especially adult ones. I already use other SL related groups in my daily routine to drive more traffic, adding a few mature SL groups will only bring a lot more I think. 

TY

Codie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Dakota and thanks for the Mature SL groups pointer. I&#8217;m so busy nowdays that I did&#8217;nt check much for other SL related groups, especially adult ones. I already use other SL related groups in my daily routine to drive more traffic, adding a few mature SL groups will only bring a lot more I think. </p>
<p>TY</p>
<p>Codie</p>
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		<title>By: cbredgrave</title>
		<link>http://codebastardredgrave.com/the-flickr-saga/#comment-8</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 11:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greetings Dakota,

I'd just like to precise that I did read the TOS right before registering for a premium. Honnestly, maby i'm even less prude or lets say scandalous, I really did not see anything applying to 3D imagery or drawings. In this assumption I was wrong. But this is still an ambiguity I think Flickr should adress. 

My biggest problem with Flickr was to obtain answers. What exactly is acceptable or not. I'll soon post my series of correspondances with Flickr and you'll see theres a lot of gray zones, non said and things that are just not clear. Like why pictures of girls kissing are sexualized kissing, and other SL galleries of boys kissing girls goes fine. Homophobia? Maby, maby not. Anyways, personnally I think Flickr's TOS leaves so much to interpretation that it cannot technically be called a TOS. Basically it says, if we dont like it we will remove it.

One other problem with Flickr's attitude toward SL photographers is this one; they treat 3D imagery as photography when it is time to censor it, but they don't acknowledge SL pictures photography so they flag your account NIPSA.

Anyways, this was my old Flickr profile, that I archived here precisely to remind newcomers that Flickrs has serious constraints regarding SL pictures, whatever they are. It's not too much to say Flickr has an attitude towards SL picture takers, and frankly I understand them flipping out when they see the bandwidth bills. We post massive amounts of pictures. It's just got much more complicated to manage public/private sets then when I posted public. So I wanted newcomers to know dumping em on Flickr like I did is a no no.

But don't worry, Flickr sucked so much of my time, I'm not bothering with them anymore at all. I just wanted to warn others of the potential problems to prevent.

I'm way beyond there, this is why I opened this new website. Soon enough my Coppermine gallery will complete my public display of my actual Flickr private sets. I'll have to cross post but I'll take the effort.

Hope this precised my toughts a bit better (its late in here),

With love

-Codie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings Dakota,</p>
<p>I&#8217;d just like to precise that I did read the TOS right before registering for a premium. Honnestly, maby i&#8217;m even less prude or lets say scandalous, I really did not see anything applying to 3D imagery or drawings. In this assumption I was wrong. But this is still an ambiguity I think Flickr should adress. </p>
<p>My biggest problem with Flickr was to obtain answers. What exactly is acceptable or not. I&#8217;ll soon post my series of correspondances with Flickr and you&#8217;ll see theres a lot of gray zones, non said and things that are just not clear. Like why pictures of girls kissing are sexualized kissing, and other SL galleries of boys kissing girls goes fine. Homophobia? Maby, maby not. Anyways, personnally I think Flickr&#8217;s TOS leaves so much to interpretation that it cannot technically be called a TOS. Basically it says, if we dont like it we will remove it.</p>
<p>One other problem with Flickr&#8217;s attitude toward SL photographers is this one; they treat 3D imagery as photography when it is time to censor it, but they don&#8217;t acknowledge SL pictures photography so they flag your account NIPSA.</p>
<p>Anyways, this was my old Flickr profile, that I archived here precisely to remind newcomers that Flickrs has serious constraints regarding SL pictures, whatever they are. It&#8217;s not too much to say Flickr has an attitude towards SL picture takers, and frankly I understand them flipping out when they see the bandwidth bills. We post massive amounts of pictures. It&#8217;s just got much more complicated to manage public/private sets then when I posted public. So I wanted newcomers to know dumping em on Flickr like I did is a no no.</p>
<p>But don&#8217;t worry, Flickr sucked so much of my time, I&#8217;m not bothering with them anymore at all. I just wanted to warn others of the potential problems to prevent.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m way beyond there, this is why I opened this new website. Soon enough my Coppermine gallery will complete my public display of my actual Flickr private sets. I&#8217;ll have to cross post but I&#8217;ll take the effort.</p>
<p>Hope this precised my toughts a bit better (its late in here),</p>
<p>With love</p>
<p>-Codie</p>
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		<title>By: Dakota</title>
		<link>http://codebastardredgrave.com/the-flickr-saga/#comment-7</link>
		<dc:creator>Dakota</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 01:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you add private images to a group members of that group can view them, thus the people who are actually interested in your pictures (ie: the Second Life group or Second Life [Mature] for non-PG stuff) can view them.

Now on to personal oppinion: I am whole-heartedly sick of people complaining about the Flickr TOS. The guidlines are there for you to read when you sign up. I'm not a prude, I have plenty of nudes in my gallery but any that contain frontal nudity are private and available for viewing by my friends and members of the Second Life [Mature] group.
If you are so very passionate about your art that you want to be exempt from the rules then you should make a website dedicated to you SLart. It's important to be passionate about what you do, and if you feel that your work deserves a website then get to it, girly.
There will be no little monitor to tell you how many views you've gotten, but then again, I guess if that's an issue you should take a long hard look at why you're so annoyed with flickr.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you add private images to a group members of that group can view them, thus the people who are actually interested in your pictures (ie: the Second Life group or Second Life [Mature] for non-PG stuff) can view them.</p>
<p>Now on to personal oppinion: I am whole-heartedly sick of people complaining about the Flickr TOS. The guidlines are there for you to read when you sign up. I&#8217;m not a prude, I have plenty of nudes in my gallery but any that contain frontal nudity are private and available for viewing by my friends and members of the Second Life [Mature] group.<br />
If you are so very passionate about your art that you want to be exempt from the rules then you should make a website dedicated to you SLart. It&#8217;s important to be passionate about what you do, and if you feel that your work deserves a website then get to it, girly.<br />
There will be no little monitor to tell you how many views you&#8217;ve gotten, but then again, I guess if that&#8217;s an issue you should take a long hard look at why you&#8217;re so annoyed with flickr.</p>
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