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	<title>Comments on: Codie Top Sweetie in SecondLife according to The Avastar</title>
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	<description>Sex gonzo photojournalist CodeBastard Redgrave blogging straight from her SecondLife</description>
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		<title>By: CodeBastard Redgrave</title>
		<link>http://codebastardredgrave.com/2008/03/12/codie-top-sweetie-in-secondlife-according-to-the-avastar/#comment-11273</link>
		<dc:creator>CodeBastard Redgrave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 16:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the record, I requested an interview with Rola by email, hoping this will clear the matter up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the record, I requested an interview with Rola by email, hoping this will clear the matter up.</p>
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		<title>By: CodeBastard Redgrave</title>
		<link>http://codebastardredgrave.com/2008/03/12/codie-top-sweetie-in-secondlife-according-to-the-avastar/#comment-11270</link>
		<dc:creator>CodeBastard Redgrave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 15:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@jazze allen

The reason why I moderated down your comments are:

1) Totally irrelevant to the subject

2) Completely unreadable, being a garbled mix of English and German

I know you want to defend your friend Roba, but she is not under attack here. The discussion is even pretty civic.

If you actually have an OPINION, other than Roba is a woman (which is to me blatantly obvious!), please feel free to post something actually relevant to the discussion.

But if you keep hammering my moderation queue with the same irrelevant comment, I will not hesitate to make you the first banned person on my humble blog.

Thank you for understanding</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jazze allen</p>
<p>The reason why I moderated down your comments are:</p>
<p>1) Totally irrelevant to the subject</p>
<p>2) Completely unreadable, being a garbled mix of English and German</p>
<p>I know you want to defend your friend Roba, but she is not under attack here. The discussion is even pretty civic.</p>
<p>If you actually have an OPINION, other than Roba is a woman (which is to me blatantly obvious!), please feel free to post something actually relevant to the discussion.</p>
<p>But if you keep hammering my moderation queue with the same irrelevant comment, I will not hesitate to make you the first banned person on my humble blog.</p>
<p>Thank you for understanding</p>
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		<title>By: CodeBastard Redgrave</title>
		<link>http://codebastardredgrave.com/2008/03/12/codie-top-sweetie-in-secondlife-according-to-the-avastar/#comment-11268</link>
		<dc:creator>CodeBastard Redgrave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 15:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greetings again Rola!

Well, read up dear, i have NEVER mentionned anything like you saying "women lost their place in society"! The only quote I refered to is a quote directly from the Avastar and it is:

 "“I think a man is better in a powerful position like boss of a company or in politics. I think a great woman knows how to stand behind her man and raise him up when needed.”"

That is all I quoted from you.

This said, I read the comments by Gwyneth both on here and on the Avastar, and I am really sorry that you have been misquoted or misinterpreted. Indeed, tabloids tends to cut into the important parts. As Gwyneth, I'm kind of relieved that you meant more than that.

Again, I have never mentioned your name in my post. Why? Exactly for that reason. You could have simply been misquoted. As I told you, I don't do on personal attacks. I questioned a principle. If you don't have that opinion, some other people have. And that was the point of my questioning. I never targeted you directly. And I'm sorry that you have been so grossly misquoted and if that brought you some drama.

I already know your opinion is different from what the Avastar printed, from Gwen mostly. But it would be an immense pleasure to talk with you about it in IM. Just leave me an IM whenever you like, will be an honor discussing with you. =)

Thanks for commenting Rola</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings again Rola!</p>
<p>Well, read up dear, i have NEVER mentionned anything like you saying &#8220;women lost their place in society&#8221;! The only quote I refered to is a quote directly from the Avastar and it is:</p>
<p> &#8220;“I think a man is better in a powerful position like boss of a company or in politics. I think a great woman knows how to stand behind her man and raise him up when needed.”&#8221;</p>
<p>That is all I quoted from you.</p>
<p>This said, I read the comments by Gwyneth both on here and on the Avastar, and I am really sorry that you have been misquoted or misinterpreted. Indeed, tabloids tends to cut into the important parts. As Gwyneth, I&#8217;m kind of relieved that you meant more than that.</p>
<p>Again, I have never mentioned your name in my post. Why? Exactly for that reason. You could have simply been misquoted. As I told you, I don&#8217;t do on personal attacks. I questioned a principle. If you don&#8217;t have that opinion, some other people have. And that was the point of my questioning. I never targeted you directly. And I&#8217;m sorry that you have been so grossly misquoted and if that brought you some drama.</p>
<p>I already know your opinion is different from what the Avastar printed, from Gwen mostly. But it would be an immense pleasure to talk with you about it in IM. Just leave me an IM whenever you like, will be an honor discussing with you. =)</p>
<p>Thanks for commenting Rola</p>
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		<title>By: Rola Hykova</title>
		<link>http://codebastardredgrave.com/2008/03/12/codie-top-sweetie-in-secondlife-according-to-the-avastar/#comment-11248</link>
		<dc:creator>Rola Hykova</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 09:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Firs of all Thank u to  Gwyneth for the  words and second are for  CodeBastard Redgrave...still misunderstanding and  where did u  read  that I said "women lost it’s place in society" and no maybe we would not have a good  discussion in  IM  because I  usually  discuss with  persons that  could not agree with me  but at least understand the  meaning of my  words, and not inventing  things that I've never said.Believe me I am not afraid to drop any discussion bombs but  while i was in IM  with Gwyneth the real meaning  came out so  if you  want a clear view of  what i  mening i am waiting to talk to u.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firs of all Thank u to  Gwyneth for the  words and second are for  CodeBastard Redgrave&#8230;still misunderstanding and  where did u  read  that I said &#8220;women lost it’s place in society&#8221; and no maybe we would not have a good  discussion in  IM  because I  usually  discuss with  persons that  could not agree with me  but at least understand the  meaning of my  words, and not inventing  things that I&#8217;ve never said.Believe me I am not afraid to drop any discussion bombs but  while i was in IM  with Gwyneth the real meaning  came out so  if you  want a clear view of  what i  mening i am waiting to talk to u.</p>
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		<title>By: Gwyneth Llewelyn</title>
		<link>http://codebastardredgrave.com/2008/03/12/codie-top-sweetie-in-secondlife-according-to-the-avastar/#comment-11143</link>
		<dc:creator>Gwyneth Llewelyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 11:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the record, Rola and I chatted a bit in IM yesterday (yes, it's an old post, Codie, but you're still being read :) ) and it was clear to me that Rola was totally misquoted on that article. Her words were taken out of context, and what she actually meant was much more reasonable.

I've posted a comment on that article (now that AvaStar became a blog, it's easier!) &lt;a href="http://www.the-avastar.com/second-life/news/2008/march/womens-day/article/in-sl-we-can/" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. As you can see, Rola's point is quite different: our society tends to promote "strong-minded individuals" as role models and community leaders, and in that process, many women discard bits of the "traditional" female values to become "more like men". This is not a question of gender really — more like social pressure and education, which convinces girls in their tender age that they need to be "strong of mind" in order to have a successful career. These days, our societies opened up the upper echelons of power both to males and females, but females will have to "behave like men" to gain that status, and this is what Rola was referring to. Just take Margaret Thatcher or Hillary Clinton as good examples of what it means to discard your femininity and adopt a typical male attitude in your speech and thought patterns in order to thrive as a leader — and I'm certain most of us would agree with Rola as well. Women are losing their traditional values in order to be fully accepted — and not all women are able (or willing) to do that.

If that's good or not, well, I don't really know, but I can understand now Rola's point of view much better now that she explained what she intended. The AvaStar, as any good tabloid, just picked a few sentences out of context to illustrate a point.

My apologies to Rola for misunderstanding her misquoted words. But I'm glad to know now what she actually meant, and it's quite more deep and worth of thought than what the AvaStar published.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the record, Rola and I chatted a bit in IM yesterday (yes, it&#8217;s an old post, Codie, but you&#8217;re still being read <img src='http://codebastardredgrave.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> ) and it was clear to me that Rola was totally misquoted on that article. Her words were taken out of context, and what she actually meant was much more reasonable.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve posted a comment on that article (now that AvaStar became a blog, it&#8217;s easier!) <a href="http://www.the-avastar.com/second-life/news/2008/march/womens-day/article/in-sl-we-can/" rel="nofollow">here</a>. As you can see, Rola&#8217;s point is quite different: our society tends to promote &#8220;strong-minded individuals&#8221; as role models and community leaders, and in that process, many women discard bits of the &#8220;traditional&#8221; female values to become &#8220;more like men&#8221;. This is not a question of gender really — more like social pressure and education, which convinces girls in their tender age that they need to be &#8220;strong of mind&#8221; in order to have a successful career. These days, our societies opened up the upper echelons of power both to males and females, but females will have to &#8220;behave like men&#8221; to gain that status, and this is what Rola was referring to. Just take Margaret Thatcher or Hillary Clinton as good examples of what it means to discard your femininity and adopt a typical male attitude in your speech and thought patterns in order to thrive as a leader — and I&#8217;m certain most of us would agree with Rola as well. Women are losing their traditional values in order to be fully accepted — and not all women are able (or willing) to do that.</p>
<p>If that&#8217;s good or not, well, I don&#8217;t really know, but I can understand now Rola&#8217;s point of view much better now that she explained what she intended. The AvaStar, as any good tabloid, just picked a few sentences out of context to illustrate a point.</p>
<p>My apologies to Rola for misunderstanding her misquoted words. But I&#8217;m glad to know now what she actually meant, and it&#8217;s quite more deep and worth of thought than what the AvaStar published.</p>
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		<title>By: CodeBastard Redgrave</title>
		<link>http://codebastardredgrave.com/2008/03/12/codie-top-sweetie-in-secondlife-according-to-the-avastar/#comment-11104</link>
		<dc:creator>CodeBastard Redgrave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 16:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Rola

First, greetings, and I'm glad you commented even if that is a quite old post. 

But there's a reason why I didn't mention your name. 

A) I'm not giving into personal attacks.
B) It really doesn't matter who said it.
C) Like you said, journalists are journalists, they can distort thing.
D) Tho, this is not the first and not the last time we hear such comments since this is still a widespread mentality.

When you drop a bomb like that, on the International Women's Day, well, expect a reaction. It's frustrating to hear a thing like "women lost it's place in society" when women are actually fighting to vote, work, and get respected for, or love who they want, or just not get beaten and treated like shit. This has been going on for dozen of years.

It just means, whatever your opinion is about the subject, sometimes it's important to measure what your saying, especially to the press. You are entitled to your opinion, but try and empathize with other women that actually fight everyday to make a better place for themselves.

Anyways, like I said, I'm pretty sure that if we met, we would have fun discussing and that it would turn out constructive. I'm a loudmouth, but I'm pretty rational and friendly during discussions. Just understand that you dropped this publicly so you decided to make a public matter of it. You can't blame the public outcry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Rola</p>
<p>First, greetings, and I&#8217;m glad you commented even if that is a quite old post. </p>
<p>But there&#8217;s a reason why I didn&#8217;t mention your name. </p>
<p>A) I&#8217;m not giving into personal attacks.<br />
B) It really doesn&#8217;t matter who said it.<br />
C) Like you said, journalists are journalists, they can distort thing.<br />
D) Tho, this is not the first and not the last time we hear such comments since this is still a widespread mentality.</p>
<p>When you drop a bomb like that, on the International Women&#8217;s Day, well, expect a reaction. It&#8217;s frustrating to hear a thing like &#8220;women lost it&#8217;s place in society&#8221; when women are actually fighting to vote, work, and get respected for, or love who they want, or just not get beaten and treated like shit. This has been going on for dozen of years.</p>
<p>It just means, whatever your opinion is about the subject, sometimes it&#8217;s important to measure what your saying, especially to the press. You are entitled to your opinion, but try and empathize with other women that actually fight everyday to make a better place for themselves.</p>
<p>Anyways, like I said, I&#8217;m pretty sure that if we met, we would have fun discussing and that it would turn out constructive. I&#8217;m a loudmouth, but I&#8217;m pretty rational and friendly during discussions. Just understand that you dropped this publicly so you decided to make a public matter of it. You can&#8217;t blame the public outcry.</p>
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		<title>By: Rola Hykova</title>
		<link>http://codebastardredgrave.com/2008/03/12/codie-top-sweetie-in-secondlife-according-to-the-avastar/#comment-11097</link>
		<dc:creator>Rola Hykova</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 13:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gwyneth Llewelyn: This is  especially  for you! U say i am an ignorante...maybe look at  yourself first...You don't even check that I am a singer...so  your words are really stupid, ignorante and totally  out of mind...:
Gwyneth Llewelyn's words:
that sounds stupid but a woman should never do that” is such a stereotyped vision of what women should do that I have my suspicions about *Rola* myself
HAHAHAHAHAHA....first  read a profile and then u can say she is a man herself...I sent u a pic too so if u have doubts about the voice maybe the pic can help hahahahha...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gwyneth Llewelyn: This is  especially  for you! U say i am an ignorante&#8230;maybe look at  yourself first&#8230;You don&#8217;t even check that I am a singer&#8230;so  your words are really stupid, ignorante and totally  out of mind&#8230;:<br />
Gwyneth Llewelyn&#8217;s words:<br />
that sounds stupid but a woman should never do that” is such a stereotyped vision of what women should do that I have my suspicions about *Rola* myself<br />
HAHAHAHAHAHA&#8230;.first  read a profile and then u can say she is a man herself&#8230;I sent u a pic too so if u have doubts about the voice maybe the pic can help hahahahha&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rola Hykova</title>
		<link>http://codebastardredgrave.com/2008/03/12/codie-top-sweetie-in-secondlife-according-to-the-avastar/#comment-11095</link>
		<dc:creator>Rola Hykova</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 13:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.......and nobody  can  tell me that i am  wrong when i say that  real  woman  has lost her identity in this society...but this is my opinion...not everyone are so  "brave" to admit that and  those are the women that i don't appriciate...like most of those  who answered here ...all ready  to attack! veeeeeeeeery  woman way!!!!! compliments. Be   woman and  write to a person if u  don't appriciate or UNDERSTAND the words...I can  explain them for u...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;&#8230;.and nobody  can  tell me that i am  wrong when i say that  real  woman  has lost her identity in this society&#8230;but this is my opinion&#8230;not everyone are so  &#8220;brave&#8221; to admit that and  those are the women that i don&#8217;t appriciate&#8230;like most of those  who answered here &#8230;all ready  to attack! veeeeeeeeery  woman way!!!!! compliments. Be   woman and  write to a person if u  don&#8217;t appriciate or UNDERSTAND the words&#8230;I can  explain them for u&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rola Hykova</title>
		<link>http://codebastardredgrave.com/2008/03/12/codie-top-sweetie-in-secondlife-according-to-the-avastar/#comment-11094</link>
		<dc:creator>Rola Hykova</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 13:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am  really  sorry that  so many  persons  could  really misunderstand the words of a person....
and also that a  reporter could so  badly  try  to express my intensions.
I  did not  mean that a  woman is not  able to  be in  powerful positions but sometimes SOME women seams to  be a bit , it's not easy to explain, in  competition with men and this  put them on a wrong way. I don't  think this is a  bad way of thinking...i prefer persons that  contacts me and talks to me,,, so if u want i am here to explain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am  really  sorry that  so many  persons  could  really misunderstand the words of a person&#8230;.<br />
and also that a  reporter could so  badly  try  to express my intensions.<br />
I  did not  mean that a  woman is not  able to  be in  powerful positions but sometimes SOME women seams to  be a bit , it&#8217;s not easy to explain, in  competition with men and this  put them on a wrong way. I don&#8217;t  think this is a  bad way of thinking&#8230;i prefer persons that  contacts me and talks to me,,, so if u want i am here to explain.</p>
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		<title>By: Crap Mariner</title>
		<link>http://codebastardredgrave.com/2008/03/12/codie-top-sweetie-in-secondlife-according-to-the-avastar/#comment-7663</link>
		<dc:creator>Crap Mariner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I decided a long time ago that hen media outlets (or feeble attempts to mimic them) create Top [VARIABLE] Lists, it's bait for people to link it and argue over who was left out or to thank them for being included.

In fact, here's a Top Ten List of all the reasons why not to get all worked up over Top Ten Lists or the commentary therein...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I decided a long time ago that hen media outlets (or feeble attempts to mimic them) create Top [VARIABLE] Lists, it&#8217;s bait for people to link it and argue over who was left out or to thank them for being included.</p>
<p>In fact, here&#8217;s a Top Ten List of all the reasons why not to get all worked up over Top Ten Lists or the commentary therein&#8230;</p>
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